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This is a very interesting book due to the perspective that it is taken from. The book is written from the murder's viewpoint which allows insights that would otherwise be completely overlooked. Many murder novels are some form of a murder mystery where the reader is taken along a journey to try and find the person who committed the crime. But here, the content of the novel belongs in the intentions of the person committing the crimes. In a way, the reader almost feels bad for the murder because he is obivously mentally unstable. The reader is given more about the murder than just facts.
I find the main character of the book, Raskolnikov, to be very intriguing. The majority of the book so far has been him talking to himself with insight from Dostoevsky, the author, giving us insight on what he is thinking. From this viewpoint, I've sort of noticed that he displays signs of being a psychopath (other than the fact that he murdered two people). Although he shows signs of being mentally ill, he also displays characteristics that make him appear very intelligent. His intelligence is shown through his thoughts when he thinks of all the ways to cover up his double murder. About how he washed off the axe, having no witnesses, checking all his clothes for blood stains, etc. All in all, he's smart enough to pull off a double murder without getting convicted...so far. I'm looking forward to reading what the intelligent psychopath will do next.
I thought this was due at 12 p.m., but oh well. Overall, this book has interested me immensely and then also bored me to sleep at times. I feel like the main character, Raskolnikov, is crazy and not just because of him murdering someone. As Adam said, he talks to himself a lot and sometimes just wonders around. It may be due to the scheming of the murder that he had been thinking about for months, or he may just be nuts. I would also like to note on how much different this society is compared to ours. It is in a different time period, country and economic state (barely). But all these contribute to the major differences that are shown throughout the book. Also, everyone always seems to be drunk, getting drunk, or on their way to get drunk. Alcohol seems to be a major motif throughout their society. Overall I'll give this novel a B- so far.
I really like this novel so far, but it's starting to get a little be repetitive. Rasco has committed the murders now, and he's just basically going crazy. He just keeps seeing things and exploding on random people. I'm ready for another climax to happen. I predict that Rasco is going to eventually going to turn himself in the police. After he is in jail I think something is going to happen with his sister's fiancee trying to bail him out. With their previous conflict, I think the author is foreshadowing to another conflict that is going to happen between the two characters. But this book is very interesting because you can really get inside of Rasco's head and live through what he is thinking.
For my post this week, I'd just like to brush up on the irony of Raskolnikov's character. As in my previous post, I described him as a psychopathic lunatic. Quite the irony in this section - he accuses others of being insane. Although Svidrigailov tells an unbelievable story about ghosts visiting him and being a slave of passion, Raskolnikov thoughts suggest that he is insane. I find this quite astounding. He is able to comment on the sanity of others, but he does not realize that he, himself fits the same label that he puts on Svidrigailov.
This book is starting to get so interesting! Finally there seems to be something happening. Rasco is literally going crazy...he can't keep himself together. And it's only a matter of time until he is going to confess to the police, or someone that knows will turn him in. I thought it was really interesting when him and Raszum had that intense moment of eye contact. Without words Rasco told him that he was the one that committed the murder, and everything all the sudden made sense to Raszum. I really like all of the insight we are getting into Rasco's head, because it almost makes you feel a little bad for him. I can't wait to see how this book ends!
Wow! I just finished the book! What a great ending. I didn't expect the ending to be very good, because I pretty much knew what was going to happen. But I found the epilouge probably the most interesting! It tells what happens after the story, and I didn't expect that to happen. I can't believe that it only took Sonia to convince Rasko to confess to the police. I think this was because he could relate to Sonia, and he figured if someone like himself thought confessing was the right thing to do, then confessing actually was the right thing to do. It's a very powerful last scene when Rasko takes his final walk as a free man down the streets, and Sonia follows behind him, supporting him every step of the way. Very good book overall!
I agree with Sami regarding the ending of the book. It was not really that big of a surprise, but as Sami mentioned, the epilouge was not as expected. But it could relate back to the idea that criminals feel alienated from society. Rasko did not feel accepted by society and mentally secluded himself throughout the whole book. But once Sonia came along, she accepted him and only then was he able to begin to let his guard down. Overall, I liked the book. It was a bit hard to read at times because it was slow. But it is a very interesting perspective, allowing an insight to the criminal mind of crimes. Obviously, the criminally active must be mentally ill but I liked how it opened a whole new world because it didn't focus on the facts of a crime. It got deep into motives and reasons which was very interesting to read about.
Yeahh I agree I was kind of hoping for more of a bang at the end of the book but it still brought things to a nice close in my eyes. Rasko was probably one of the more interesting characters I've encountered in my reading. Usually the main character isn't, well, so crazy. Throughout the whole book I was going back and forth from feeling bad for him to not, but his confession allowed me to feel for him in the end. If he would have just gotten caught I might have still seen him as a villain. Not to shabby of a book overall, worth the $5.99.
The ending of this book also interested me, mainly because of how the novel ended with a cliff hanger... then picked back up a year and a half down the road while Rasco was in Siberia. I feel like the ending was very sped up, with Rasco suddenly confessing his love to Sonya and his mother dying. It was also interesting in a good way, because it filled me in with what I wanted to know after he entered the police station again. I think that biggest thing out of the last section that we read was when Dunya did not kill Svidrigailov. Her and her brother are so similar and trust each other immensely, yet the main difference is that Rasco could kill another human being and Dunya could not.Overall, this book had some very, very boring parts, but was then spotted with some exciting scenes. The author manages to have the characters and scenes portrayed so differently in the novel, and that is what sets this book off to a whole new level than any other book I have read.
I'd just like to talk about the significance of his dreams. Like in a previous chapter, he had a dream that came true metaphorically. His dream in the final chapters also came true. I felt this dream explained all of Raskolnikov's motives in a short time. Because he felt he was the sole possessor of knowledge,he tore himself apart with madness just as the people in his dream did. His madness was the driving force of all of his actions from the murders to loving Sonya. I just thought it was kind of weird having deja-vu twice.
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This is a very interesting book due to the perspective that it is taken from. The book is written from the murder's viewpoint which allows insights that would otherwise be completely overlooked. Many murder novels are some form of a murder mystery where the reader is taken along a journey to try and find the person who committed the crime. But here, the content of the novel belongs in the intentions of the person committing the crimes. In a way, the reader almost feels bad for the murder because he is obivously mentally unstable. The reader is given more about the murder than just facts.
I find the main character of the book, Raskolnikov, to be very intriguing. The majority of the book so far has been him talking to himself with insight from Dostoevsky, the author, giving us insight on what he is thinking. From this viewpoint, I've sort of noticed that he displays signs of being a psychopath (other than the fact that he murdered two people). Although he shows signs of being mentally ill, he also displays characteristics that make him appear very intelligent. His intelligence is shown through his thoughts when he thinks of all the ways to cover up his double murder. About how he washed off the axe, having no witnesses, checking all his clothes for blood stains, etc. All in all, he's smart enough to pull off a double murder without getting convicted...so far. I'm looking forward to reading what the intelligent psychopath will do next.
I thought this was due at 12 p.m., but oh well. Overall, this book has interested me immensely and then also bored me to sleep at times. I feel like the main character, Raskolnikov, is crazy and not just because of him murdering someone. As Adam said, he talks to himself a lot and sometimes just wonders around. It may be due to the scheming of the murder that he had been thinking about for months, or he may just be nuts. I would also like to note on how much different this society is compared to ours. It is in a different time period, country and economic state (barely). But all these contribute to the major differences that are shown throughout the book. Also, everyone always seems to be drunk, getting drunk, or on their way to get drunk. Alcohol seems to be a major motif throughout their society. Overall I'll give this novel a B- so far.
I really like this novel so far, but it's starting to get a little be repetitive. Rasco has committed the murders now, and he's just basically going crazy. He just keeps seeing things and exploding on random people. I'm ready for another climax to happen. I predict that Rasco is going to eventually going to turn himself in the police. After he is in jail I think something is going to happen with his sister's fiancee trying to bail him out. With their previous conflict, I think the author is foreshadowing to another conflict that is going to happen between the two characters. But this book is very interesting because you can really get inside of Rasco's head and live through what he is thinking.
For my post this week, I'd just like to brush up on the irony of Raskolnikov's character. As in my previous post, I described him as a psychopathic lunatic. Quite the irony in this section - he accuses others of being insane. Although Svidrigailov tells an unbelievable story about ghosts visiting him and being a slave of passion, Raskolnikov thoughts suggest that he is insane. I find this quite astounding. He is able to comment on the sanity of others, but he does not realize that he, himself fits the same label that he puts on Svidrigailov.
This book is starting to get so interesting! Finally there seems to be something happening. Rasco is literally going crazy...he can't keep himself together. And it's only a matter of time until he is going to confess to the police, or someone that knows will turn him in. I thought it was really interesting when him and Raszum had that intense moment of eye contact. Without words Rasco told him that he was the one that committed the murder, and everything all the sudden made sense to Raszum. I really like all of the insight we are getting into Rasco's head, because it almost makes you feel a little bad for him. I can't wait to see how this book ends!
Wow! I just finished the book! What a great ending. I didn't expect the ending to be very good, because I pretty much knew what was going to happen. But I found the epilouge probably the most interesting! It tells what happens after the story, and I didn't expect that to happen. I can't believe that it only took Sonia to convince Rasko to confess to the police. I think this was because he could relate to Sonia, and he figured if someone like himself thought confessing was the right thing to do, then confessing actually was the right thing to do. It's a very powerful last scene when Rasko takes his final walk as a free man down the streets, and Sonia follows behind him, supporting him every step of the way. Very good book overall!
I agree with Sami regarding the ending of the book. It was not really that big of a surprise, but as Sami mentioned, the epilouge was not as expected. But it could relate back to the idea that criminals feel alienated from society. Rasko did not feel accepted by society and mentally secluded himself throughout the whole book. But once Sonia came along, she accepted him and only then was he able to begin to let his guard down. Overall, I liked the book. It was a bit hard to read at times because it was slow. But it is a very interesting perspective, allowing an insight to the criminal mind of crimes. Obviously, the criminally active must be mentally ill but I liked how it opened a whole new world because it didn't focus on the facts of a crime. It got deep into motives and reasons which was very interesting to read about.
Yeahh I agree I was kind of hoping for more of a bang at the end of the book but it still brought things to a nice close in my eyes. Rasko was probably one of the more interesting characters I've encountered in my reading. Usually the main character isn't, well, so crazy. Throughout the whole book I was going back and forth from feeling bad for him to not, but his confession allowed me to feel for him in the end. If he would have just gotten caught I might have still seen him as a villain. Not to shabby of a book overall, worth the $5.99.
The ending of this book also interested me, mainly because of how the novel ended with a cliff hanger... then picked back up a year and a half down the road while Rasco was in Siberia. I feel like the ending was very sped up, with Rasco suddenly confessing his love to Sonya and his mother dying. It was also interesting in a good way, because it filled me in with what I wanted to know after he entered the police station again. I think that biggest thing out of the last section that we read was when Dunya did not kill Svidrigailov. Her and her brother are so similar and trust each other immensely, yet the main difference is that Rasco could kill another human being and Dunya could not.Overall, this book had some very, very boring parts, but was then spotted with some exciting scenes. The author manages to have the characters and scenes portrayed so differently in the novel, and that is what sets this book off to a whole new level than any other book I have read.
I'd just like to talk about the significance of his dreams. Like in a previous chapter, he had a dream that came true metaphorically. His dream in the final chapters also came true. I felt this dream explained all of Raskolnikov's motives in a short time. Because he felt he was the sole possessor of knowledge,he tore himself apart with madness just as the people in his dream did. His madness was the driving force of all of his actions from the murders to loving Sonya. I just thought it was kind of weird having deja-vu twice.
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